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This class felt weirdly experimental the entire time. From only communicating on Discord (??) to making the final an oral exam (albeit technically optional), the professors' choices sometimes felt like a prank. The problem sets also got increasingly more annoying as the semester progressed -- by the end of the semester, we were expected to complete several very dense proofs that TAs couldn't really help with. It seemed like they weren't really allowed to check your work, so they could only offer vague conceptual advice on how to improve. On top of that, answer keys (published after the due date as study resources) were often riddled with errors or grammatical mistakes that sometimes made using them as study resources misleading.
The lectures were also fairly confusing -- the professor's scratch work would be impossible to follow, and he would also make frequent mistakes that he'd have to rewind several steps to correct. In addition, the professor would also spend large amounts of time in some lectures explaining weird experimental course choices -- for example, explaining the final (optional in some cases) being an oral exam took twenty straight minutes. He also took time at the beginning of the semester to explain why the course discouraged "studenting."
The class is very deceptively easy; the concepts are easy to understand, but they weren't taught clearly and proofs were graded quite harshly. The first two tests weren't very hard, but the last two really stretched the limits of writing proofs in a 50 minute time constraint. There was one assignment offered for extra credit, which was just writing some Python code, which is also the only time you actually code in this class.
TLDR: Hopefully the professors can make this better in future iterations of the course, but this semester was convoluted and experimental
If you can, avoid taking this class with Aidan and David Evans. The class was generally confusing in terms of material, concepts, and expectations. From what I heard with other DMT classes, there was different content taught with other professors and it wasn't as hard.
There was a lack of communication, especially regarding the final exam which they barely provided information for until the last minute. Problems sets became increasingly hard, which is understandable since we explored more concepts, but the TAs and even the professors lacked actual guidance when asking questions related to the homework.
The amount of time it took to grade homework, tests, and even receive responses was terrible. The main form of communication was discord, but even then, asking a question lacked a proper answer as you'd either receive some complicated concept or sarcastic response.
For me, this was definitely a challenging class. Even having had some experience with discrete math in high school, there was a lot of new content that we covered that could feel overwhelming at times. Not impossible though! I would recommend making good use of TA office hours, as usually they're really chill and super helpful with the weekly problem sets. Even if you know what you're doing, you should still go to OH to get work checked, as sometimes it felt like the graders took off points for no reason.
Professor Aidan San was really friendly and helpful during his office hours. Lectures sometimes felt a little fast, but overall I can't complain.
As for the tests, Test 1 was easy, and then the tests got progressively harder. For my class the final was an oral exam where you explain a proof in your own words. It was optional, so I don't know much more than that.
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I went into this class thinking not necessarily that it would be easy, but that it wouldn't be incredibly difficult as one of the first courses required for the CS degree. I was very wrong.
It wasn't really the course material that was tough, rather it was the tests and homework. TAs could be pretty pedantic about notation and would dock 5 points out of your 20 point HWs pretty regularly. Camping office hours and looking for a specific TA was also pretty necessary to do well on the HWs, unless you were just already really good at the material. Tests would get increasingly hard but the test prep study sheet wouldn't help very much.
Also, apparently, the Spring 2025 semester of this course was also very different from previous semesters, as previous semesters of this course had a mandatory written final, while this semester had an oral final. As someone who took the oral final, whether or not it bumped your grade was very dependent on which teacher tested you: David Evans or Aidan San. It was random which professor you got, and Aidan was much kinder and lenient compared to David.
Teaching wise, Aidan really did his best to teach something that kind of seemed intuitive to him. His office hours don't really help much though, as they were mostly him asking you questions back.
I agree with all of the other reviews already written here; I had heard reviews from other CS majors that discrete math was one of the easiest core courses in the curriculum, and it felt like the biggest lie as we progressed through this class.
I believe this was due to those semesters having different instructors, because the instructors made this content sound more confusing than any other class I've taken at UVA. The primary communication happening through Discord was also odd, and I couldn't trust their provided proof solutions since they would inevitably find errors in it after a couple days of sharing it with students. I've somehow found CSO to be a more enjoyable class than this one was.
I'll say David Evans and Aidan San were kind and well meaning individuals, but do avoid taking the class with these instructors if you can.
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